In reply to Pete.

They certainly are zealots. Thanks for visiting and the interesting information. I'll have to check out the iCon book. You know, a few weeks ago I did something a bit crazy. I decided to clone my laptop drive with triple boot and see how it did on a desktop computer. Would you believe Windows 7 worked everything out? 1 reboot and it was 100% working on a completely different machine. No DVD necessary. Ubuntu, actually came in second. Not only did I have to boot in recovery mode but after it was a real pain to get the video up to par. Then there is OSX, dead as a door nail. Even with an attempt at recovery off of the DVD, it recognizes that OSX is on the drive but refuses to start it. That's just reality. I'm not a big fan of bureaucratic beasts like MSFT, but if they produce good stuff then it's good stuff. NTFS is still the most feature rich desktop file system that exists in terms of security. If Ubuntu could handle user permissions the way NTFS does they'd have a chance at cracking the enterprise office workgroup nut. It just doesn't. :-\